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chasmmi
21st April 2009, 04:23 PM
Haven't seen this appear anywhere so thought I would update.
Colour codes: Blue = Still in WC, Red = Still in WC with Match in hand, Black = Out of WC ranking cannot improve.
As of Saturday
1 Ronnie O'Sullivan 53575
2 Stephen Maguire5000 48050
3 Shaun Murphy6400 45575
4 Allister Carter 42525
5 John Higgins 6400 42225
6 Ryan Day 5000 40675
7 Mark Selby 37975
8 Marco Fu 37350
9 Neil Robertson 6400 35225
10 Stephen Hendry 33125
11 Mark Allen 6400 32875
12 Joe Perry 32875
13 Ding Junhui 29644
14 Peter Ebdon 29400
15 Mark Williams 29319
16 Mark King 28300
17 Barry Hawkins 27175
18 Jamie Cope 26632
19 Dave Harold 26607
20 Ricky Walden 26050
21 Stuart Bingham 25419
22 Joe Swail 24894
23 Steve Davis 24544
24 Michael Holt 23225
25 Stephen Lee 23188
26 Matthew Stevens 1150 23132
27 Liang Wenbo 22825
28 Graeme Dott 22494
29 Nigel Bond 22357
30 Judd Trump 21901
31 Fergal O’Brien 20795
32 Gerard Greene 20751
40 Jamie Burnett 17888
43 Andrew Higginson 17438
chasmmi
21st April 2009, 04:24 PM
Situation so far...
World Number One:
For winning his opening match O Sullivan is now uncatcheable at number one.
Top 16:
Top 10 are mathematically safe in the top 16, as the 7th best live player in the draw (Steve Davis) can only get as high as 31744 ranking points which will not catch Hendry in 11th.
Of course If I had the time or the motivation I could probably prove that pretty much all but King and Williams are probably safe due to draw permutations but its a lot of time to take at a risk of getting it wrong. :)
However, the following players can make the top 16 on certain Conditions,
Cope:
If King loses to Maguire/Burnett, He needs to make at least the semi finals, and Hope that Davis does not make the final, or that Holt/Lee don't become world Champion.
If King reaches the quarter finals then Cope needs to make the Final to overtake Williams.
Davis, Holt, Lee:
All have to make the Final and hope results go their way.
Dott:
Needs to become world champion and still hope results go his way.
Top 32:
Burnett and Higginson each need to reach the Semis or beter to enter the top 32, neither can make top 16.
dannyd0g
21st April 2009, 05:22 PM
Very good work Chasmmi. I was hoping someone would post something like this.
Marc
21st April 2009, 05:34 PM
Thanks for working that out chas.
It looks like Hendry needs another semifinal to stay in top 8 i think!
chasmmi
21st April 2009, 05:45 PM
It looks like Hendry needs another semifinal to stay in top 8 i think!
I'm afraid it's worse than that,
By my calculations, he needs to win the whole thing and hope that at least one of the players currently ranked 5-8 lose their next match.
AndrewB
21st April 2009, 09:03 PM
Top 16:
Top 10 are mathematically safe in the top 16, as the 7th best live player in the draw (Steve Davis) can only get as high as 31744 ranking points which will not catch Hendry in 11th.
Of course If I had the time or the motivation I could probably prove that pretty much all but King and Williams are probably safe due to draw permutations but its a lot of time to take at a risk of getting it wrong. :)
I think Allen, Robertson and Ding are all mathematically safe as well: Ebdon can easily catch them, but otherwise at most one of King/Davis can catch them, and at most one of Cope/Holt/Lee can catch them (and no-one else).
And as you say, it'd take a weird set of results for Ebdon to be caught, even if he loses to Bond.
chasmmi
24th April 2009, 01:00 PM
Updated after first round now.
Top 32 is set in stone and the top 16 is almost confirmed.
The top 14 are guarenteed top 16 status next season with then two out of WIlliams, King and Cope taking the other two places.
The top 7 are definately in the top 8 for next term, with only Roberston and Jendry in with a chance of displacing Selby.
TheTrooper
25th April 2009, 06:05 PM
Technically Dott could end up in the top-16, if he takes the title, and King and Cope lose their next matches, couldn't he?
Alex0paul
25th April 2009, 06:08 PM
Technically Dott could end up in the top-16, if he takes the title, and King and Cope lose their next matches, couldn't he?
Wouldn't really matter as he would be seeded 2nd for all events a la Murphy 05/06.
TheTrooper
25th April 2009, 06:20 PM
Of course, forgot that.
chasmmi
26th April 2009, 03:07 AM
Updated after today's results.
Oh and as a side...
I believe Steve Davis will start next season provisionally in the top 16. :O
gettingbetter
26th April 2009, 10:20 AM
For someone who is itnersted in snooker, but not so much the technicalities, what exactly are the provisional rankings? The rankings where 1. Ronnie, 2, Maguire, 3. Selby, 4 Murphy are what rankings?
I keep seeing provisional, and I'm not exactly sure what they are.
Maija
26th April 2009, 10:35 AM
The official rankings are the ones calculated after every season, and where you stand in those rankings determines whether or not you have to qualify for tournaments.
The provisional ranking list is simply keeping an eye on the rankings as they change with the points given out in every tournament. In itself it has no bearing on anything, except of course that it turns into next season's official ranking list when the season's up.
If you go to the World Snooker (http://www.worldsnooker.com/provisional.htm) website, you can see both the official rankings, the provisional ones and the points schedule, which is all you need to calculate the provisional rankings (bear in mind they are based on two seasons).
Official ranking:
1. Ronnie O'Sullivan
2. Stephen Maguire
3. Shaun Murphy
4. Mark Selby
5. John Higgins MBE
Provisional ranking: (after China)
1. Ronnie O'Sullivan
Points total: 49775
Last season: 29700
This season: 20075
2. Stephen Maguire
Total: 43050
Last season: 25975
This season: 17075
3. Shaun Murphy
4. Allister Carter
5. John Higgins MBE
gettingbetter
28th April 2009, 04:01 AM
Ok, I thought it was something like that.
stuartfanning
28th April 2009, 08:29 AM
Mark King is safe in the Top 16 for next season, isn't he?
chasmmi
30th April 2009, 04:10 PM
Updated after quarters.
So the top 16 is set. Neil Robertson can displace Fu in the top 8 if he wins the tournament.
Quick run down of how high the last four can get.
Murphy - Will be world number two if he wins the title,
Will be world number three if he beats Robertson or Higgins doesn't win title.
Will be world number four if he loses to Robertson and Higgins wins title.
Higgins - Will be world number three if he wins title and Murphy loses his semi.
Will be world number four if he beats Allen.
Will be world number five if he loses to Allen.
Robertson - Will be number seven if he wins the event.
Will be number nine if neither he nor Allen wins the event.
Will be number ten if Allen wins event and he loses to Murphy.
Allen - Will be number nine if he becomes world champion and Roberston loses to Murphy.
Will be number ten if he beats Higgins.
Will be number eleven if he loses to Higgins.
N/B I believe that Allen is above Perry in the rankings as things stand due to the one year list but am not 100% sure.
wildJONESEYE
30th April 2009, 05:10 PM
N/B I believe that Allen is above Perry in the rankings as things stand due to the one year list but am not 100% sure.
yes thats how it works point gained during the current season takes priority meening Allen is 11th and Perry is 12th
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