Sign if your happy with the game

[Caligula]

Okay not trying to be controversial here. Quite a few people on this forum aren't too happy with the game and I respect their views and even agree with quite a lot of their points, but despite some faults, I think it is a pretty solid experience.

If you are happy with the game then please say so in this thread - just give the hardworking programmers a bit of positive reaction on this forum as some of the criticism whilst true has been given in an unconstructive way.

I've played all Blade's snooker games since 2000 and I'm pretty chuffed with this latest effort despite its flaws in commentary, saving and certain physics. Still a good gaming experience for me.

[DavisFan76]

Yes, I'm happy, but see my wishlist for 2010, Blade people!

[arjs1965]

I'm fairly happy just wish there was a option to lock the position circle off for online play.

Just think this option would increase the number of players online, and actual make you feel you have achieved something making a 50 or better break,
as it stands I like most i have played just feel the game is far to easy.

And as far as no online play for the PC people. I do think thats one huge mistake just cant get my head round that one.

[SnookDude]

Cant you make a pool or something?

Options:

1. Extremely happy, I bought the game and it's perfect for me
2. Happy, I bought the game and enjoy it very much
3. Neutral, I bought the game
4. Not happy, I bought the game and regret
5. Extremely not happy, I bought the game and would like to return / sell it
6. I don't buy it, I will pass this time

[submarine]

It would also be helpful to know which system people happy with the game were using, eg pc, ps3, xbox360.

[Caligula]

I don't think this forum supports polls, but that wasn't my intention anyway. I think (and respect) that a poll would be more against the game than for, having read a lot of the posts. And I recognise some of these forum names from people who have posted on Blades past forums and respect their views.

As I stated, this isn't a "stuff the negative criticism" thread. I wholeheartedly agree with some of the discontentment, but having asked myself if I would prefer to have my money back, the answer would be "NO".

Its simply a thread for those whose opinions sway more towards being happy to have the game than totally disgruntled by it.

I guess that although I respect that people should have expected some of the their issues not to have been in the game (and again totally agree), despite financial reward, its always nice to be appreciated whatever your profession, and its not a bad game IMHO, just not as good as I would have liked it to be and this thread is in no way meant to start any turf war, as I totally appreciate the discontentment expressed by quite a few.

Anyway - I'm rambling lol

[hanterp]

As I stated, this isn't a "stuff the negative criticism" thread.

I think this says it all about this topic...
Most people overhere are critical, true, but it is no NEGATIVE critisism!

You should understand that Blade themselves want feedback ( which is positive critisism).
Your topic gives the wrong signal; one like "we are happy with the game".
They should know what the area's are were they should improve, or better, make a patch for.
If you say you are happy, then Blade will never correct errors, like the disconnect problem for the PS3 or the strange way of saving the game. Not to mention the problems with the cushions that decrease the pace of the balls too much...

So, all the above is my reason NOT to sign that I am happy with the game.

[Caligula]

Hanterp - your comments would be fair if enough if all feedback had been given in a constructive criticism way. You only have to read some of the threads to see that far from constructive some of the criticism is outright abusive.

I'm just giving it the carrot and stick approach. :)

[Jobe]

Signed. Yes, the game could be improved but so can even the best sports games out there. Most developed by huge publishers not small studios like Blade. I think overall this game is a good attempt. Definately an improvement on 07 and is fun to play.

I also agree with the comments regarding abusive comments from certain posters on this forum. It doesn't help anyone really doesn it? But I suppose thats 'internet- anonymity- courage' for you! :P

[Otchy]

SIGNED. PS3 user, great game, love it. would like trophies, more consistent online play and custom sound track but it isn't a bad game without them. the choice of aiming aids means it is as hard or easy as i want. also, (just to be controversial) the physics are spot on!:o

[DavisFan76]

SIGNED. PS3 user, great game, love it. would like trophies, more consistent online play and custom sound track but it isn't a bad game without them. the choice of aiming aids means it is as hard or easy as i want. also, (just to be controversial) the physics are spot on!:o

Have you ever played, or watched snooker? In WSC Real 09, you could hit a single ball thin, but not that thin, yet it would hardly move! I've had times where I've hit the pack, again thick enough to cause some disturbance to it in real life, yet in WSC Real 09, it barely moves at all. And then there is the lack of response in the cushions...

The physics need work. Not a lot, but they do need work.

As for the aiming aid? Yes, it's fine if you want to play a game of lining up arrows. If you want to play something approaching a game that requires some snooker skill, then WSC 09 is not your man. It is a good, fun game but it is no snooker simulation. Mouse cueing and a 'dotted line' style aiming system would move it much closer to what it should be.

[Otchy]

Have you ever played, or watched snooker? In WSC Real 09, you could hit a single ball thin, but not that thin, yet it would hardly move! I've had times where I've hit the pack, again thick enough to cause some disturbance to it in real life, yet in WSC Real 09, it barely moves at all. And then there is the lack of response in the cushions...

The physics need work. Not a lot, but they do need work.

As for the aiming aid? Yes, it's fine if you want to play a game of lining up arrows. If you want to play something approaching a game that requires some snooker skill, then WSC 09 is not your man. It is a good, fun game but it is no snooker simulation. Mouse cueing and a 'dotted line' style aiming system would move it much closer to what it should be.

As for your dotted line aiming aid, you ever use that at your snooker club? You want a simulation then turn the bloody thing off! As for the physics, you are wrong, but why did you post an argument? the author of this thread said they don't want this sort of thing, just accept my opinion differs from yours,

[hanterp]

As for your dotted line aiming aid, you ever use that at your snooker club? You want a simulation then turn the bloody thing off! As for the physics, you are wrong, but why did you post an argument? the author of this thread said they don't want this sort of thing, just accept my opinion differs from yours,
If you think the ball physics are spot on then I think you are not a good player.
Just watch snooker on TV ( The World Championship is there at BBC and Eurosport ) and watch the speed of the balls. If a player plays a safety you see the white slowing down very smoothly until it stops. In the game you have to play much harder because the cushoins take out far too much of the white's pace.
That is NOT spot on, like on TV!
Another thing: If you say that somebody is wrong, you cannot forbid others to react on such a statement. That is ridiculous, especially because it is a fact that you yourself are wrong. That is no opinion, that is a fact and you can see it yourself when you compare snooker on TV and snooker in this game.

[DavisFan76]

As for your dotted line aiming aid, you ever use that at your snooker club? You want a simulation then turn the bloody thing off! As for the physics, you are wrong, but why did you post an argument? the author of this thread said they don't want this sort of thing, just accept my opinion differs from yours,

At a snooker club, you can get right down on the table. You can examine the shot from any angle. Potting balls on a screen is completely different! Having no aiming aid at all makes the game impossible, I would regularly miss pots that I would never miss in real life. A dotted line aid is the perfect balance between having a challenge, but also being able to pot balls occasionally! Bit of a daft post to make really, since WSC Real 09 can never have the feel of putting your hand on the table and lining up the shot just as you want to. Just like someone saying that Fifa 09's a good football sim, yet you never kick a ball. Indeed, but in real football you can't control a whole team yourself either, can you? Whereas in snooker, both the game and real life, you're only ever controlling your own actions.

As for me being wrong about the physics, ok, we will agree to disagree. You've been playing on some very weird tables with some strange balls if you think these physics are spot on though...

If you think the ball physics are spot on then I think you are not a good player.
Just watch snooker on TV ( The World Championship is there at BBC and Eurosport ) and watch the speed of the balls. If a player plays a safety you see the white slowing down very smoothly until it stops. In the game you have to play much harder because the cushoins take out far too much of the white's pace.
That is NOT spot on, like on TV!
Another thing: If you say that somebody is wrong, you cannot forbid others to react on such a statement. That is ridiculous, especially because it is a fact that you yourself are wrong. That is no opinion, that is a fact and you can see it yourself when you compare snooker on TV and snooker in this game.

Exactly what I was about to post. I'd go as far as to say that the cushion physics on my 6ft table are more accurate.

[SnookDude]

I think the best way to solve this problems of snooker computer game is by adding OPTIONS.

- Aim aid arrow (disable/enable)
If enabled, Aim aid arrow length percent (100% = default length)

- Top view (enable / disable)
If enabled, show aim aid on top view (enable / disable)

- Positional arrow (enable/disable)
If enabled, positional arrow length (100% = default length)

- Table speed modifier percent (100% = default, set to 120% to make it faster)

and so on ...

That should not be hard to implement!

[hanterp]

I think your last point is somewhat more difficult to implement. It depends if there are different parameters for speed-decrement. There should be one for the cushions and one for the cloth. Only the speed decrement for the cushion should be tweaked.

All of this is certainly too much to fix/implement in a patch. That can only be something for the next in the series. If they think the commercial way ( and I am sure they do ) they present these things as new parts of their next game. Exactly this way EA and Konami work to bring a new football game all the years.

[DemonANT77]

what a load of rubbish, ea and konami have quality controll so they dont
release games with defects. if the game flags for bugs then the devolopment
team fix the problems before release.
You cannot seriously say fifa or pes (ea & konami) has bugs like this game

Also I feel i had to post on this thread because other people are posting on it.
The thread is called 'Sign if your happy with the game'. Why are people posting
and making the numbers look like you're happy with the game.
If you are not happy then you should go to a different thread :mad:

[hanterp]

what a load of rubbish, ea and konami have quality controll so they dont
release games with defects. if the game flags for bugs then the devolopment
team fix the problems before release.
You cannot seriously say fifa or pes (ea & konami) has bugs like this game



No really not??? Ever tried to play on-line with PES 2008 or PES 2009??
Teleporting players all over the field is not as worse?
The worst thing of all is that Konami never attempted to improve from the on-line fiasco on PES 2008. '09 is as worse as '08!

[DemonANT77]

some games may have online connection issues
but there is a difference between online lag and disconnection.
Disconnection happens occationally on most online games,
this is partly due to the way broadband internet works and thats expected
but there is a difference between losing connection occasionally
and losing connection constantly because of a design flaw.

[hanterp]

In both cases you can speak about design flaws and in PES there is not a matter of 'losing connection occasionally'; it is completely unplayable.

[DemonANT77]

i havent played pes (more a fifa man myself) so you are probably right about
the quality of that product, but it doesn't make WSC real 09 right either.

they should call it WSC UNREAL!

[DavisFan76]

I think the best way to solve this problems of snooker computer game is by adding OPTIONS.

- Aim aid arrow (disable/enable)
If enabled, Aim aid arrow length percent (100% = default length)

- Top view (enable / disable)
If enabled, show aim aid on top view (enable / disable)

- Positional arrow (enable/disable)
If enabled, positional arrow length (100% = default length)

- Table speed modifier percent (100% = default, set to 120% to make it faster)

and so on ...

That should not be hard to implement!

It would be so damned easy to do! That way, those who want to play on slow tables can do so, while the rest of us can enjoy proper table physics. I'd like to add to your list the option of a classic aiming aid (arrows), or an advanced aiming aid (dotted line).

So come on, Blade! More options! That way, everyone wins...

[DavisFan76]

I think your last point is somewhat more difficult to implement. It depends if there are different parameters for speed-decrement. There should be one for the cushions and one for the cloth. Only the speed decrement for the cushion should be tweaked.

All of this is certainly too much to fix/implement in a patch. That can only be something for the next in the series. If they think the commercial way ( and I am sure they do ) they present these things as new parts of their next game. Exactly this way EA and Konami work to bring a new football game all the years.

You've obviously not played PC Fifa 09. Disappearing players, ball going through the bar, unexplained crashes in MM, anyone?

As for the cushions, you're right. With a bit more bounce, they'll be fine: the table speed seems ok to me. Or they could add one for the table speed and one for the cushions, linking them both so they're consistent with each other.

what a load of rubbish, ea and konami have quality controll so they dont
release games with defects. if the game flags for bugs then the devolopment
team fix the problems before release.
You cannot seriously say fifa or pes (ea & konami) has bugs like this game

Also I feel i had to post on this thread because other people are posting on it.
The thread is called 'Sign if your happy with the game'. Why are people posting
and making the numbers look like you're happy with the game.
If you are not happy then you should go to a different thread :mad:

Well, players that disappear from time to time in PC Fifa 09, leaving you with one visible player, the ball and the radar to play with is a pretty huge squishy bug!

[hanterp]

I played from both FIFA 09 AND PES 2009 the Xbox 360 version.
From FIFA I know they made another version for the PC than the one on PS3 and Xbox 360. These console versions do not have the bugs you mention.
For PES it is another story: From what I have heared, on-line is all over the place in both the PC and PS3 versions. Just like the Xbox 360 version, which I played myself.

[DavisFan76]

Yes, I know. The PS3 version of Fifa 09 is amazing, apart from the fact that if you get fired in MM, that's it. Game over. That doesn't happen in the PC version, but apart from that, in comparison to the console versions, the PC Fifa 09 is an absolute disgrace.

[WendyV]

I am playing WSC Real 09 for a couple of days now. Just started with the practise mode and achieved all the challenges. Up till now i am not too disappointed. Graphics look okay and the game plays fine. Of course i don't doubt that there will be imperfections in it, but overall a good game. Like always and with every game, some will like it and others won't. And there is no choice, if you want to play snooker on your console it is the only snookergame at the present endorsed by World Snooker and containing all the tournaments and players of the Main Tour.

[zimrahil]

And there is no choice, if you want to play snooker on your console it is the only snookergame at the present endorsed by World Snooker and containing all the tournaments and players of the Main Tour.

I take your point, but there is choice. I am playing WSC 05 on PS2 and that has all 96 licenced players, not just 32