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mushka
18th October 2008, 07:20 PM
I hope it isnīt alredy posted somewhere, I didnīt see it in the "Professional Tournament discussion" section. :)

Qualifiers draw (http://www.worldsnooker.com/Bahrain_Championship_qualifying_draw.htm?tid=136)

Seeds draw (http://www.worldsnooker.com/bahrain_championship_drawsheet.htm?tid=135)

crucible77
18th October 2008, 07:58 PM
Anyone have any ideas who the wildcards are gonna be? I can only think of one player from bahrain and that Habib Subah.:snooker:

darrus
18th October 2008, 09:54 PM
Here's the normal draw because this one at Worldsnooker is pretty annoying - I still can't understand how to scroll down, it keeps moving.
http://globalsnookercentre.co.uk/files/Results/2008-9/Professional/2008-bahrain-draw.htm

Yes, it's interesting who the wildcards will be. No idea...

JanieWatkins
25th October 2008, 04:46 PM
I think it's 6 wildcards and they'll come from the countries across the region

So without too much thought I can pencil in the following:

Habib Subah (Bahrain)
Mohammed Shehab (UAE)
maybe Mohammed Al Joker (UAE)
Mohsen Abdulaziz (Qatar)

not sure about others, but those 4 are the best players from the Gulf countries.

There are also useful players in Saudi, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, Oman.

Maybe one of both of the Aseerie brothers from Saudi might get in.

crucible77
28th October 2008, 12:34 PM
Well Jimmy White has lost in Qualifying Round 2 to Peter Lines 5-2.
:(:eek::snooker:

gby4
28th October 2008, 01:53 PM
The WSA live scoring has got some really awfull fotos of some players, you can see only top of the head from Peter Lines... Embarrassing.

ja.
28th October 2008, 01:56 PM
and how about this :rolleyes:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9274/41985372sj0.jpg

crucible77
28th October 2008, 02:13 PM
and how about this :rolleyes:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9274/41985372sj0.jpg


when did that happen :eek:

ja.
28th October 2008, 02:17 PM
yesterday kroocey :rolleyes:

dannyd0g
28th October 2008, 03:49 PM
bahrain qualifiers highest breaks taken from GSC

Qualifying Stages Centuries

135 Li Hang (Career Best)

127 Kuldesh Johal (Career Best)

124 Liu Chuang

122 Jin Long (career Best)

101 Vinnie Muldoon (career Best)

:confused:

Would anyone else be expecting players on the main tour to have made career best breaks higher than these ?

In-off
28th October 2008, 04:19 PM
Not really

Three of the four there are on the circuit for the first time and this is only their fourth tournament

dannyd0g
28th October 2008, 04:29 PM
Not really

Three of the four there are on the circuit for the first time and this is only their fourth tournament

but this is career best, which would presumably include all amatuer tournaments they had competed in previously ?

crucible77
28th October 2008, 05:14 PM
but this is career best, which would presumably include all amatuer tournaments they had competed in previously ?

No Danny I think it means Career as in Pro Career and theyve only played in 4 tournaments. :snooker:

Rane
28th October 2008, 08:20 PM
No Danny I think it means Career as in Pro Career and theyve only played in 4 tournaments. :snooker:

I think you are right there. I visited Neil Robertsons webpage last night, and he claims to have 3 tournaments 147īs but as they are made on australian tables, they donīt count in the statistic, even though I would guess the measures of the hole are exactly the same.

Viktortheman
28th October 2008, 08:28 PM
and how about this :rolleyes:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9274/41985372sj0.jpg

haha lol. Well it's obvious a big bug here:D

Rane
28th October 2008, 08:33 PM
haha lol. Well it's obvious a big bug here:D

But at least it seems like Andy Lee should be quite certain to be only 809 frames behind.:D

Viktortheman
28th October 2008, 09:11 PM
But at least it seems like Andy Lee should be quite certain to be only 809 frames behind.:D

Yeah! Haha lol:D

Ellena
29th October 2008, 10:13 AM
and how about this :rolleyes:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9274/41985372sj0.jpg

pmsl And Lee's pic..soo nice :p. Maybe they were playing bridge not snooker .

Ekphantos
29th October 2008, 01:18 PM
John Parrott beat Daniel Wells 5:3 and will now play Dominic Dale (pitty one can't watch that), Peter Lines beat Alan McManus 5:1 and Atthasit Mahitthi David Gray 5:0 :eek:

Mahitthi is now to play Steve Davis, but I guess no matter how the match ends, he will continue due to the Premier League clash. I don't like that, Steve should have withdrawn from the qualifiers...

Rane
29th October 2008, 01:32 PM
John Parrott beat Daniel Wells 5:3 and will now play Dominic Dale (pitty one can't watch that), Peter Lines beat Alan McManus 5:1 and Atthasit Mahitthi David Gray 5:0 :eek:

Mahitthi is now to play Steve Davis, but I guess no matter how the match ends, he will continue due to the Premier League clash. I don't like that, Steve should have withdrawn from the qualifiers...

Then it will end with a walkover for the wildcard entrant to get a match against Ronnie OīSullivan, if the path from Dotts withdrawl has to be followed.

Ekphantos
29th October 2008, 03:11 PM
uh, wildcard round, of course... :o

Goldspark
29th October 2008, 04:59 PM
Liang about to make a maximum...

darrus
29th October 2008, 05:06 PM
Well, Davis - if he wins tomorrow - goes to Bahrain, his first match is against Ronnie and he most likely will lose it so he'll be safely back in UK in time for PL match :) If Steve manages to go further - then he'll probably be forced to withdraw to fulfill his obligations with PL, but I guess he'll think about it when it comes to that.
No need to give away ranking points, especially if he wants to stay in top-32 by the end of the season.

What about Liang, did he get it?

very.tee
29th October 2008, 05:06 PM
Liang about to make a maximum...

Yeah, just saw that.... Well Done him!

Goldspark
29th October 2008, 05:11 PM
Yep, first time I've ever seen a 147 on World Snooker's live scoring. :)

stjimmy18-1991
29th October 2008, 05:27 PM
Yep, first time I've ever seen a 147 on World Snooker's live scoring. :)

yeah same...i was wondering whether we were going to see another 5-0 from him so i watched a frame on live scoring, saw he was on 16, and i said: "147", and sure enough, he made it! haha

rivercard
29th October 2008, 05:57 PM
Two 139 breaks and a 147 from Wenbo, that's pretty impressive. Would be nice if he could produce something like that in the televised stage.

Oh, and I just saw he made a 115 as well. That's 4 centuries in a best of nine, one of which is a maximum, that can only be compared to Ronnie O'Sullivan I think. The main difference is that this match wasn't televised unfortunately.

Matt_2745
29th October 2008, 06:00 PM
That's sensational really, especially when I believe that his career best before today was a 134 :D

Goldspark
29th October 2008, 06:12 PM
In other news, Judd Trump could be about to lose.

JanieWatkins
29th October 2008, 06:23 PM
Two 139 breaks and a 147 from Wenbo, that's pretty impressive. Would be nice if he could produce something like that in the televised stage.

Oh, and I just saw he made a 115 as well. That's 4 centuries in a best of nine, one of which is a maximum, that can only be compared to Ronnie O'Sullivan I think. The main difference is that this match wasn't televised unfortunately.

just an average afternoon's work for Wenbo!

It just goes to prove that there is some stunning snooker played here at Pontin's during the qualifying rounds. Sadly there's no streaming (we're not allowed to do it on GSc, we did ask!) but if anyone is able to get here anytime for a couple of days, you've got two sessions of play a day and 8 tables in play, so always something good to choose to watch.

the tons have been going in thick and fast today.. Rory McLeod had two in his match. McManus one in the only frame he won...

Matt_2745
29th October 2008, 06:34 PM
I think Murphy and Hendry both made 4 centuries in a best of 9 once, in Malta I think?

I wanted to get over for the qualifiers this week but it's a three hour drive each way which makes it difficult. Plan on going to the UK/Masters qualifiers before Christmas and then making the Prestatyn trip in January, all being well...

stjimmy18-1991
29th October 2008, 06:43 PM
judd takes the match to 4-4 and on a 23 break in the decider...

Matt_2745
29th October 2008, 06:49 PM
23 becomes 71 and it looks like Trump will have survived for another round.

And yeah, Trump wins.

rivercard
29th October 2008, 06:53 PM
I think Murphy and Hendry both made 4 centuries in a best of 9 once, in Malta I think?

I don't remember, they might well have done. I was referring to the O'Sullivan-Carter match (5 centuries, one of them a 147) mostly because of the maximum. But Hendry, Murphy and O'Sullivan are very good company.

And yes, it's a shame there is no livestreaming (or any kind of video) this year especially that GSC did try, so it wasn't because of a lack of interest. Same goes for PIOS I think..

stjimmy18-1991
29th October 2008, 06:55 PM
I don't remember, they might well have done. I was referring to the O'Sullivan-Carter match (5 centuries, one of them a 147) mostly because of the maximum. But Hendry, Murphy and O'Sullivan are very good company.

And yes, it's a shame there is no livestreaming (or any kind of video) this year especially that GSC did try, so it wasn't because of a lack of interest. Same goes for PIOS I think..

according to worldsnooker.com's article on wenbo's 147, ebdon has also made four centurys in a best of nine. wonder when that was?

and way to go judd!

rivercard
29th October 2008, 08:17 PM
according to worldsnooker.com's article on wenbo's 147, ebdon has also made four centurys in a best of nine. wonder when that was?

and way to go judd!

I've managed to find it:

"Peter became the first to make four century breaks in five frames, in the European Open qualifying competition at Blackpool on 6 Sep 1992."

Source: www.snooker.org

Rane
30th October 2008, 11:29 AM
Dominic Dale has finished a quick whitewash of John Parrot 5 - 0

Kat
30th October 2008, 11:39 AM
Why are Mark Selby, John Higgins and Ding Junhui not in the draw? :eek:

steveflanuk
30th October 2008, 11:43 AM
According to GSC, 2 of the 6 wild cards have been confirmed as Habib Subah and Ahmed Ghuloom, both from Bahrain.

The other 4 wild cards will be given to players with 1 of each coming from Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia and Oman

dannyd0g
30th October 2008, 11:47 AM
Why are Mark Selby, John Higgins and Ding Junhui not in the draw? :eek:

they had a prior engagement - Premier league

I believe Steve Davis could also be affected - if he qualifies...

gby4
30th October 2008, 01:40 PM
It's 3-3 between Attahasit Mahittih and Davis. Wonder wheter they will fix Attahasits live score photo if he wins? Probably not, since live scoring doesn't work very well anyway.

murdock
30th October 2008, 02:31 PM
Anyone know what's going on in the Steve Davis game now? According to GSC it's 4-4. Another final frame decider for Steve!

gby4
30th October 2008, 02:32 PM
74 brake from Davis and it's 4-4.

murdock
30th October 2008, 02:40 PM
Any idea what's going on in the decider?

In-off
30th October 2008, 02:46 PM
42-18 to Davis at the moment

murdock
30th October 2008, 02:49 PM
Thanks for the info In-off. Live scoring doesn't work on my computer so I'm a bit in the dark about frame scores!

In-off
30th October 2008, 02:53 PM
49-18 now

Pity this isn't on a web stream, sounds v. exciting

I expect Davis to wear him down now

Ekphantos
30th October 2008, 02:57 PM
I hate watching safety exchanges on the live ticker....:mad::o

gby4
30th October 2008, 02:58 PM
49-18 to Davis and it has been so for a long, looong time now...

hegeland
30th October 2008, 02:58 PM
57-18 according to WSA.

hegeland
30th October 2008, 02:59 PM
Davis has won!

In-off
30th October 2008, 02:59 PM
Davis wins!

Well done!

murdock
30th October 2008, 02:59 PM
This is very tense and I can't even watch the scores updated. This is even harder than actually watching a Steve match! Thanks for the updates everyone. I really appreciate it!

Ekphantos
30th October 2008, 03:00 PM
Great! But I still think he should have withdrawn from the tournament earlier....

murdock
30th October 2008, 03:00 PM
Brilliant. That's great. What was the final frame score? Do we know?

Ekphantos
30th October 2008, 03:01 PM
76:18 according to worldsnooker

hegeland
30th October 2008, 03:01 PM
76-18 it was.

murdock
30th October 2008, 03:03 PM
Thanks guys. Much appreciated.

I'm not sure whether I agree that he should have withdrawn from the tournament. He needs the ranking points just like anyone else and has been put in a very tricky position. Given his position in the Premier League it'd be much better if he just withdrew from his Premier League fixture. I realise that's not going to happen since he'd probably be sued by Barry Hearn if he did, but surely playing in a ranking tournament is much more important than playing in a one-off Premier League match in a tournament he now has virtually no chance of qualifying for the semi-finals in?

gby4
30th October 2008, 03:03 PM
Yes!! 5-4 to Davis. Experience matters in deciders, and that's where it often goes with Steve. He will be playing ROS so they will have to show that on Eurosport :)

In-off
30th October 2008, 03:10 PM
He won't beat Ronnie so he can go to Bahrain

There was no reason for him to pull out and the tournament will benefit from having him there

Rane
30th October 2008, 03:11 PM
Yes!! 5-4 to Davis. Experience matters in deciders, and that's where it often goes with Steve. He will be playing ROS so they will have to show that on Eurosport :)

Well, when the other three had to withdraw, how can Steve Davis avoid it ? Now we migth see Ronnie against a wildcard !

Ekphantos
30th October 2008, 03:12 PM
I'm not sure whether I agree that he should have withdrawn from the tournament. He needs the ranking points just like anyone else and has been put in a very tricky position. Given his position in the Premier League it'd be much better if he just withdrew from his Premier League fixture. I realise that's not going to happen since he'd probably be sued by Barry Hearn if he did, but surely playing in a ranking tournament is much more important than playing in a one-off Premier League match in a tournament he now has virtually no chance of qualifying for the semi-finals in?

I agree with all the reasoning, I also think that ranking points/tournaments are more important than anything else, but it also seems rather un-sportsmanlike to enter a tournament when you know that you wouldn't be able to continue. The whole situation is very unfortunate. I wonder how this is regulated anyway, can one just withdraw and get the ranking points earned up to that point?

darrus
30th October 2008, 03:15 PM
Didn't John Higgins once leave a tournament because of family matters? We have a case here.
But I think that Davis is just being realistic about his chances to advance in Bahrain - his part of the draw is really complicated and with Ronnie being his first opponent - then Fu in next round... Might as well get all the points he can get.
I'm certainly not going to criticize him.

murdock
30th October 2008, 03:17 PM
I agree with all the reasoning, I also think that ranking points/tournaments are more important than anything else, but it also seems rather un-sportsmanlike to enter a tournament when you know that you wouldn't be able to continue. The whole situation is very unfortunate. I wonder how this is regulated anyway, can one just withdraw and get the ranking points earned up to that point?

I absolutely agree with all your reasoning too. I'm not sure there's a right or wrong answer to this. There is a precident for this, however. I'm sure other people will remember the details of this better than me, but a few years ago John Higgins pulled out of a tournament having won his quarter-final (or last 16?) game in, I believe the Grand Prix. The reason for this was that he was best man at his brother's wedding. He'd declared before the tournament that if he got this far then he would pull out. And he did. Now I believe he was given ranking points for getting as far as he did in this tournament and no one really complained at the time (not even the people he'd beaten on route).

Can anyone else remember this situation? Have I got the details right?

Ekphantos
30th October 2008, 03:18 PM
his part of the draw is really complicated and with Ronnie being his first opponent -

Well, I don't know the schedule, but maybe he can get hammered by O'Sullivan (which will happen for sure) and then make it back to the PL :D

In-off
30th October 2008, 03:22 PM
He is due to play Ronnie on Sunday. The PL is on Thursday.

He's got loads of time.

The only thing that will change this is if Ronnie's back plays up beforehand.

murdock
30th October 2008, 03:24 PM
He is due to play Ronnie on Sunday. The PL is on Thursday.

He's got loads of time.

The only thing that will change this is if Ronnie's back plays up beforehand.

Well, I guess I'm in a minority here but I'm expecting another tense final frame decider with Steve running out a winner ;)

bonoman1970
30th October 2008, 04:20 PM
:snooker:I totally agree Murdock, O'sullivan will push Davis all the way to 4 - 4 then the nugget will stamp his authority on him in the final frame decider!
Come on Steve!!!!!!!!!

murdock
30th October 2008, 04:28 PM
Glad to see I'm not the only optimist on here when it comes to Steve!

Alternatively, Steve will go 4-0 up and Ronnie will have one of his sulks like he did against Stephen Hendry a while back and just decide he "doesn't fancy carrying on".

noel
30th October 2008, 04:43 PM
Glad to see I'm not the only optimist on here when it comes to Steve!

Alternatively, Steve will go 4-0 up and Ronnie will have one of his sulks like he did against Stephen Hendry a while back and just decide he "doesn't fancy carrying on".

Right.


http://www.seespotruninc.com/images/Shark.gif


=o)


Noel

April madness
30th October 2008, 06:33 PM
Apparently yesterday was Liang Wenbo's day as today Michael Judge beat him fairly comfortably 5-2! And Mark Williams beat by Judd Trump, 2-5

darrus
30th October 2008, 06:37 PM
Mark :( I'm gutted that he lost.

Ellena
30th October 2008, 07:54 PM
Mark :( I'm gutted that he lost.

Same here :(:( And Wenbo out too...what a day..

Rane
30th October 2008, 08:35 PM
If Steve Davis was supposed to play sunday, whý couldnīt an arrangement be made so Selby, Higgins and Ding could be into the championship as well ? The premier league is only one evening. :confused:

April madness
30th October 2008, 09:00 PM
If Steve Davis was supposed to play sunday, whý couldnīt an arrangement be made so Selby, Higgins and Ding could be into the championship as well ? The premier league is only one evening. :confused:

The league thursday is next week after that sunday, so if either of the three (and Davis too) gets to round 2 or even quarterfinals, it's impossible to arrange their matches are not affected by premier league on thursday night - for example, quarterfinals are on friday, and the time difference doesn't work in their favour, I don't think they can go for an evening to UK and then travel back for quarterfinal match on time.

Viktortheman
30th October 2008, 09:17 PM
Mark :( I'm gutted that he lost.

This is actually the first time in 12 years Mark Williams misses a tournament. Last time he missed one was in 1996 when he lost 5-4 to Simon Bedford in the Grand Prix qualifiers. Something to think about Mark.

João
30th October 2008, 09:27 PM
I thought that was in 2008. :p

darrus
30th October 2008, 09:30 PM
Yes, last time Mark Williams missed a tournament was in October 2008 :p
Which is sad, really :(

alexholowczak
31st October 2008, 10:13 AM
Something interesting, when was the last time the final of a ranking event was played on a Saturday? The Quarter Finals are on a Thursday, too. So, say if Steve's QF was at 3pm Bahrain time, then it would start at 12pm our time. The game won't go beyond 3pm if Steve gets a move on. If his PL match was scheduled for 8pm, he'd have a chance to make it in time. Next day, if they set his SF to start at 8pm, that'd be 5pm our time, so he'd have a chance of that part of the arrangement...

Most important thing here: Steve's chances of even reaching the Quarter Finals must be slim. He will probably lose in Round 1 or 2 anyway, so it won't make much difference. :-P

matoski
31st October 2008, 10:46 AM
I'll say this again, Liu Chuang was a bad choice to be awarded a wildcard for this seasons main tour.

dantuck_7
31st October 2008, 11:40 AM
Something interesting, when was the last time the final of a ranking event was played on a Saturday? The Quarter Finals are on a Thursday, too. So, say if Steve's QF was at 3pm Bahrain time, then it would start at 12pm our time. The game won't go beyond 3pm if Steve gets a move on.

He would need a courier on a motorcycle to take him to the airport, then have to have a private jet booked and then a mad dash at the other end. It'd be another 6-0 - not going to happen.

Anyone else seen that Ebdon plays Cope in the 2nd round possibly.

Viktortheman
31st October 2008, 12:12 PM
Yes, last time Mark Williams missed a tournament was in October 2008 :p
Which is sad, really :(

Oh man I've misunderstand it a lot:( But is says like this on worldsnooker

"Two-times World Champion Williams missed his first ranking venue in 12 years when he lost 5-4 to Simon Bedford in the Grand Prix qualifiers and must now sit out another one".

Ekphantos
31st October 2008, 03:50 PM
The wildcards are: (from worldsnooker)

Ahmed Goulam
Born in 1988, Bahrain's Goulam reached the last 32 of the 2007 World Amateur Championship.

Isa Ali Al-Hashmi
Born in 1970 from the United Arab Emirates, his top break is 120.

Habib Subah Habib
This 25-year-old is Bahrain's top player, with a high break of 144. He has played on the World Snooker Tour and beat Jimmy Michie as a wild card at the 2005 China Open in Beijing.

Ahmed Saif (pictured)
From Qatar, he won an under-21 Gulf tournament in Dubai in 2004 and was a quarter-finalist in the 2006 Asian Games.

Ahmed Basheer Al-Khusaibi
The 28-year-old from Oman has a top break of 115.

Ahmed Abdulla Asiry
Born in 1977, he's ranked No 1 in Saudi Arabia with a top break of 143. A six-time Saudi champion, he reached the semi-finals of the Asian Indoor Games in Macao.