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veggiss
19th December 2007, 11:03 PM
hi!
i'm quite curious about this, and would like to try this out myself. i know ebdon uses an 11mm elkmaster mushroom tip, my question is if this is a regular tip that you shape by yourself, or does it come "mushroomed".

MikeWooldridge
19th December 2007, 11:25 PM
e.g. mushroom tip = 10mm tip fitted on 9mm ferrule

i love it. in fact i was using mushroom tips before anyone i know. including professionals who jumped on my bandwagon... :)

CueAntW147
19th December 2007, 11:26 PM
Hi basically a mushroom tip simply means the actual tip is slightly bigger than the ferrule ( so has a mushroom shape effect )eg i use a 9.5mm ferrule and a 10mm tip so it overhangs a little, if you put a to bigger tip on a smaller ferrule it can be off putting, and you need to make sure when fitting the tip it overhangs the same all the way round.
You then just shape the tip as you normally would i find as the quality of elk and blue diamonds are not what they were so i press mine in a vice before fitting which seems to give them the right hardness and makes them easier to shape.

hope this helps and all makes sense

CueAntW147
19th December 2007, 11:30 PM
e.g. mushroom tip = 10mm tip fitted on 9mm ferrule

i love it. in fact i was using mushroom tips before anyone i know. including professionals who jumped on my bandwagon... :)
hello Mike what you doing on 'ere at this time a bit early for you ........ so either the pubs closed early..... or your fed up now your websites closed for xmas.......

bongo
20th December 2007, 07:56 AM
For mushroom tips, you can do what is above.

They do not come 'mushroomed' they are just a cue tip.

But 1mm bigger, or 0.5mm bigger (as above)

What you can do is get a 1mm or 0.5mm bigger tip and cut down the sides and there is more 'meat' on the tip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm6gnu0oioM

If you click the link, Jack Karnehm shows just what i'm saying.

You have got links on that page for the whole video and others,

YouTube is free and safe, there are loads of Snooker Videos too.

bongo
20th December 2007, 07:58 AM
Never heard of the idea of using a vice for the tip. :)

veggiss
20th December 2007, 10:27 AM
great info! thanks guys.

poolqjunkie
20th December 2007, 10:33 AM
I will try that, too, thanks a lot.

I wonder if I will have problems when the cue ball is tight to the cushion?

MikeWooldridge
20th December 2007, 12:16 PM
actually i meant to say 10mm on 9.5mm ferrule. that' a 'nice' overhang. 1mm starts to get a bit much but its ok.

CueAntW147 - yeah, i never knew computers worked before nidnight....:D

CueAntW147
20th December 2007, 07:04 PM
Never heard of the idea of using a vice for the tip. :)

No problem...i don't know about everyone else but i just find the quality of elks and in particular blue diamonds not what they once were.
Some even fall apart when you shape them, but if you press them in a vice, clamp or similar maybe overnight before fitting they seem better in every respect, shape better, and really then don't need much bedding in, and seem the ideal hardness.

I have to say the the Wooldridge Supertips play well and need very little bedding in and a worth a try if you want to pay the extra...maybe Mike will offer us free samples......i think i can hear him choking on his mince pie :D
All this is just my humble opinion but the extra pressing of the tips really worked for me and would recommend it worth a try ;)

Stunrunthru
20th December 2007, 09:54 PM
Mushrooms are great when they are deep fried in breadcrumbs with garlic mayonnaise.

MikeWooldridge
21st December 2007, 12:14 AM
Mushrooms are great when they are deep fried in breadcrumbs with garlic mayonnaise.

quite right. not too heavy on the garlic though...;)

bongo
21st December 2007, 07:47 AM
Good one Stunrunthru!

Bendy
30th December 2007, 03:45 PM
I tried playing with an overlapping mushroom tip and never got on with it.

Everytime I was playing a shot when the cue ball was a couple of inches off the cushion and my bridge hand was on the cushion rail.

I always felt that when I was bringing the cue back I would catch the edge of the tip on the cushion and pull it off as I alway try to keep the cue as flat and parallel to the table (not digging into the cueball).


Anybody else experience this?

Mark

poolqjunkie
4th January 2008, 10:36 AM
Hi Mark,
I think your tip has too much mushroom. It is supposed to be just a bit of overhanging. I used ot have the same problem, bcause I mistaken the idea and used a 11mm on a 10mm tip, I had so much problem with cushion shots.
Now, I used a 10.5mm on a 10mm. I trimmed it once, and then just let it mushroom. It is working great. I am not sure if that is what others do, but it works fo rme.

Semih_Sayginer
4th January 2008, 11:10 AM
if you want a slightly bigger coverage of tip than your ferrule diameter, and dont want to "mushroom" it in the 'normal' way, then you can use a very sharp scalpel to trim the excess off, but when doing so fan it out so that the playing part is slighlty wider than the ferrule. this means it usually runs smoothly on cushion shots too.

Bendy
4th January 2008, 11:45 AM
Yep, I must have had too much overhanging the ferrule, I remember seeing John Parrot with a mushroom tip and it appeared he had about 2 mm of overhang, must have been a trick of the light.

I'm pretty fixed in my ways when it comes to tips, but i'll try something new once in a while....mushroom tips , talisman tips ...but I'm back to a flush fitting elkmaster tip now...

Cheers.....

snooker_wiz
17th February 2008, 09:26 AM
You then just shape the tip as you normally would i find as the quality of elk and blue diamonds are not what they were so i press mine in a vice before fitting which seems to give them the right hardness and makes them easier to shape.



Could somebody please post a pic of what type of VICE CueAntW147 is talking about ?

cheers

CueAntW147
17th February 2008, 10:24 AM
Could somebody please post a pic of what type of VICE CueAntW147 is talking about ?

cheers

hi snooker_wiz basically i have a normal vice on a work bench with a turn handle that applies pressure. But you could use anything a clamp or even just some wood with something quite heavy on the top of it to press down on the tip before fitting all your actually doing is compressing the tip that little bit more which will make it harder and give it that played in/bedded in feel straight away.
Another way of doing it is once the tip is fitted on the cue tap it lightly with a block of would this will have a similiar effect and give it that bedded in feel.

hope this helps
cheers